choenyi wrote:

don't know if its 117benitoxxx117 but slew of medleys it is for sure, many of which state in the submission notes that either the name of the artist or label is "not real" (huh?)

http://www.discogs.com/submissions?user=tangalabel

Jayfive wrote:

Yes, its him again. Hes been banned at least twice. Inform nik to have him and his submissions removed.

nik wrote:

As Charlie Brown says, good grief!

donbacky
tangalabel

Both blocked now.

I can't bulk remove those subs.

choenyi wrote:

seems
ildiscotto
is the same as well

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Not again...They have another account as well, mentioned back in the V4 Horror topic that still exists, they just abandoned it. At least I think it does, I'll go serach it out.

hwanin wrote:

sorry to bother you, but who is this guy and what has he done?

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

This user showed up around the beginning of V4 under the name 117Lucia117. They submitted releases that were so horrible it spawned the beginning of the first V4 Horror topic, who's author left but you can still find it using the search engine. Back in the beginning of v4, there were no removals so the stuff sat there for ages, then they started another account & commented on their original stuff saying simply 'very good'. They never edited or anything. Eventually, the removal system was finished and I personally started a topic on getting their stuff out. Probably the first removals of V4. I do feel maybe too proud for that. :D Then both accounts were banned. Since then, they have come back on so many different accounts, it's almost impossible to keep track of them. And they really must hate me, because they vandalised my submissions a few times. :D

[Edit/]

Found their other account, just in case it's not banned.

http://www.discogs.com/user/oldnightlong

schtel wrote:

Perhaps the activity on new accounts should be monitored? Maybe a list of 'new users.' So we can say "Hi!" or "Bye!" :D

choenyi wrote:

btw this user immediately created a new account today, welldone, from whom I received dislike mail (hate mail might be too strong but it was certainly displeased) and private email addresses ;p

schtel wrote:

We're being infiltrated people. Stay on alert! ;P

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

A taste of what lucia/benito/oldnightlong/discoextreme/etc are capable of.

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1271220#latest

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1271276#latest

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1282830#latest

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1082467#latest [This had 13 EI votes, the history just disappeared for some reason.]

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1287776#latest

http://www.discogs.com/release/1297274 [This one is still up. It's not theirs though. They just edited it to where it looks like one of theirs.]

The submission of mine they vandalized. I espcially love the picture they put up that is now stuck forever in the image history & the comment KIndly slowly enters. Now that's just friggin creepy.

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1106973#latest




Arm yourself with knowledge. :D

12inches wrote:

tangalabel and ildiscotto are the same person.... I called him on a web submission the other day so he decided to take a piss on me by rating most of my subs with a 1/5.

choenyi wrote:

pff!

choenyi wrote:

ZOMG, Drama_Ft._Justified, those images are horrible.
Looked at more of ildiscotto's submissions - totally the same person. we can has ban plz?

comfort wrote:

HELLO PLEASE LOOK AT THE SUBMISSION BEFORE YOU PUSH YES!
A lot of them are already inn discogs for years and he just made some changes (that as i can see are right, but unnecessary and just to raise some dumb discogs points i guess) I AM ALMOST SURE that he has his info from disco patrick his site (http://www.discopatrick.com/) or he bought his book about bootlegs, but i can't imagine he owns all these releases :)
BUT PLEASE CHECK BEFORE YOU PUSH THE YES BUTTON, thankyou

julesparis wrote:

yep definately copy-pasting from discopatrick's website - one of their incarnations was even posting link to discopatrick page as sub notes like here for instance http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1256263#latest

meckah wrote:

If he doesn't own them and subbed them, they need to go imo.

julesparis wrote:

i'm assuming you're referring to the YES REMOVE button?

choenyi wrote:

The new user ID has added to Wantlist those items subbed by previous ID and in Collection ...

julesparis wrote:

isn't mastercuba one and the same too?
seems like whoever they are they are selling all those medleys / megamixes subbed by tangabel ildiscotto et al. - looks kinda bizarre: http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=mastercuba

choenyi wrote:

I thought so as well.

€ 30.00 - ouch.

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Back in the very beginning of their little submitting spree, I added a few submissions to my collection to keep track of them. They then wrote to me, asking for them. Because of this, I don't believe they own any of them. It's only lucky that it's kind of easy to spot them because basicly every image on the discopatrick site (which they always use) is very specific in the way it's taken.




Now I understand your comment. Sorry bout that. I didn't know the edits he did were put up for removal as well, I thought it was just the submissions.

nik wrote:

Yup, another one blocked.

:-/

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1406544

http://www.discogs.com/release/427189

http://www.discogs.com/release/1195203

http://www.discogs.com/release/1267701

People, vote no on these 4. They are viable. They were part of whoever's submissions because he edited them but they weren't acually his and can be fixed.

choenyi wrote:

and ildiscotto?

choenyi wrote:

^^^^ !!!!
sorry for the f-up. many edits i caught but these four resembled that user's favorite stuff and i didn't catch the mistake i was making.

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

I don't blame you. I didn't notice either. Sorry everyone.

nik wrote:

Banned weeks ago...

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Thanks for confirming that. I just put up all the stuff that was personally his and another account of his (solarmix), up for removal.

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Hey, I said vote no!! Thank you to whoever kicked out a viable submission.

[/Edit]

Just put up all of mastercuba's personal submissions for removal as well.

sptnk wrote:

Just a thought...
I think they keep trying to add these records, especially because they don't have them. It's like they are waiting for someone who does own one of these records to turn up and then contact them to see if they are interested in selling.
It's sort of a mad fishing-for-records-expedition!
Checking some of these accounts, they seem to be reliable buyers, not much bad feedback.
I wouldn't be surprised if they turn up again soon.
Or maybe it's just one person.

12inches wrote:

if ildiscotto was banned weeks ago how could he have access to nit-pic over and give 1/5 ratings to my subs just last night?.....

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1436008

http://www.discogs.com/release/ratings/1436008

choenyi wrote:

W. T. F.

12inches wrote:

gone now thanks nevermind....

PeeweesFunkyRecords wrote:

Hi There,

Just got a message that "Ministrone" on RPM Records , Teen Beat & Midtown Mix" were removed (or are going to be). I'd like to cancel these removals, because I 've got nothing to do with these Italians.
Why remove something I added because some italians happen to like them? I spent some precious time submitting them and I've got (or had) those in stock.


These record are mix-records that are very special to a lot of people. And interest in them is growing fast.
Not having them in the database would be strange.

Cheers,
Thijs

timelapsed wrote:

Hi,my dear friends,i'm tangalabel and ildiscotto.
I collect medley bootleg and mixed compilations.
I have over 2600 of these records.
If you want to see my drecords you can call me to this address of MSN:

yyymimmoyyy@hotmail.com

I don't know personally MASTERCUBA and DONBACKY.
I know only that are of the great and famous collectors of this kind of records.
choenyi is IDIOT and STUPID.
He has organized everything this because it has a personal problem with me.
I thank Drama_Ft._Justified because it is a honest and correct person.
I want to remember you that DISCOGS is for the lovers of the music in all of its forms.
It is not a battleground where all the idiots gather him to make his/her own war.
If you want to contest me the way according to which I have inserted the records I accept the criticisms.

many thanks

timelapsed wrote:

I hope that someone than you is from my part and you help me.
You look well at the motives that these idiots have for making to remove my submissions.
Will there be someone of honest and intelligent between you?

julesparis wrote:

you should try and contact nik to explain your case, but I guess if he blocked all your accounts he made sure IPs were matching etc. before pulling the plug(s)

julesparis wrote:

seems it's back in your drafts already - you can resub it from there

timelapsed wrote:

nik is corrupt and idiot.

timelapsed wrote:

i'm a honest person,i love music.
they hate music,they want only war.

julesparis wrote:

yeah - and what is it good for, hu? absolutely nothing etc. etc.

timelapsed wrote:

Who wants to see in chat my records can call me when he/she wants.
Before accusing and to condemn someone needs to give the possibility to defend himself/herself/themselves.

timelapsed wrote:

Criticisms have to be constructive they don't have to be destructive.
Because not give a possibility to reply to the answers?

julesparis wrote:

i'm sorry but who's posting now?

117lucia117?
xxxbenitoxxx?
ildiscotto?
tangalabel?
welldone?
mastercuba?
oldnightlong?
mimmosky?

please tick where appropriate

timelapsed wrote:

i'm ildiscotto and tangalabel.
now i'm timelapsed.
with welldone i have only write a idiot.

julesparis wrote:

whatever happened to lucia and benito, did they get married and live happily ever after?
they were cool buggers - clueless but fun!

sptnk wrote:

@ PeeweesFunkyRecords

They were removed by mistake. There is nothing wrong with having those old bootleg mixes in Discogs.

Only the ones added by "117lucia, xxxbenito, etc" were to be removed, as they were full of mistakes and, so it seems, not based on physical copies... But the websubmitter-police went a bit in overdrive and did not always check properly who was the original submitter.

Ofcourse, the original submitter might not be aware of this discussion. Hope they check their Discogs e-mail, otherwise some good entries migth have dissappeared into the drafts.
You could send them an extra e-mail asking them to re-submit and point them to this discussion.

timelapsed wrote:

I'm sorry,i don't know Lucia and benito.
Is they Italian?
Is it their name or are they of the nicknames?
How do I have to imagine me them?
They could be whoever.
I know all the collectors of this kind of records.
If you give me some information I can look for among my friends.

Jayfive wrote:

Youve been banned from this site. Banned members of this site are not allowed to open new accounts. You will be banned again and will continue to be banned every time you open a new account.

You do more harm than good on this site, therefore you are not welcome on this site.

Jayfive wrote:

And we know youre all the same person because nik can see ip addresses - thats why at least one account that hadnt been mentioned up til then was blocked.

Plus you're not allowed multiple accounts when submitting. Another reason to ban you.

You cant fool us by claiming you dont know these people. Your IP gives you away. Give it up.

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Damn. I thought I caught all the ones mistakenly put up for removal by choenyi. They must have gone out too quickly for me to catch them. Sorry if I voted yes.

nik wrote:

To all - I am sorry about the continued abuse from this user, I am doing everything I can to halt it.

To timelapsed - Please understand you are permanently banned from this website. Any new account you make will have all it's submissions removed on sight. You are wasting your time. Your abuse of the submission system, as exampled in the post http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/to...34#2173620 , your continued submitting of information from websites (instead of items you hold yourself), and your continued abusive and threatening communication with myself and others on this site, ensures you will never be welcome here.

loveallmusic wrote:

I hope that very aloft someone takes in examination all of this that is happening.

TechElec wrote:

Please just give it up, have you got any idea how long it takes me and other voters to trawl through your awful submissions removing them? Regardless of how you feel discogs is run please have some consideration for the people who work for free to maintain the site and stop wasting our time.

jweijde wrote:

Please put an IP ban on him (if possible).

julesparis wrote:

can this topic be locked?

thanks

loveallmusic wrote:

I hope that very aloft someone takes in examination all of this that is happening.

Jayfive wrote:

This account has been closed

Kepp coming back, keep being banned.

This is a site full of obsessive compulsives and anal-retentives. You'll get bored long before we do. :P

SeRKeT wrote:

sadly as most IP adresses are not static these days an IP ban won't work that well ..

choenyi wrote:

sadly indeed

"you are an idiot,i send you 10,100,1000 emails.
you don't understand anything.
I modify and cancel you all of your submissions."

from a new account that has already been banned ... sheesh.

meckah wrote:

Well, when IP banning, banninng a range of adresses is what you are going to do, a single address is pretty useless. If it is a small ISP, just ban the whole range of that ISP. Job done.

Plus there are also other ways to ban people, I won't even say how here, beacouse if you are banned, you will need to find out first how you are banned, and most people won't even pass that stage. And then after that you need to figure out how to bypass it.

rassel wrote:

Nevertheless there's a positive aspect on the whole story for this site:

Obvioulsy the reputation of this site is big enough to encourage people to do everything to get their "releases" and names displayed here. It's a good sign for the Database and shows the importance throughout the whole web.

wow

SeRKeT wrote:

yes and that will ban a number of other users i should imagine
i have run servers before , i know how it works, its just irritating that a few people just can't listen to good advice
ie: follow the rules :D




good point, nice to see something positive gained by all this stupidity

gabalgabow wrote:

Yes, it's cool because you can submit your releases with detailed infos, then you can sell it on the market place... And then some peoples might complete your discography with other compilations and stuffs... And it seems the site will last for more and more years, so it's nice :-)

choenyi wrote:

lolz :) !

meckah wrote:

Not really. The average number of users per 255 addreses is far lower than 1, so the average extra users banned (appart from the one you actually want to ban) is almost always 0. If for some reason a person actually is banned when he shouldn't be, then he could be exempted from the firewall.

Jayfive wrote:

In case you missed it, the troll came back again - seems to think that rating some of nik's submissions as 1/5 is actually going to achieve anything XD

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

Awww...all his stuff was deleted. Too Bad. :D




This is an excellant idea. I know several sites that use a system like this. Once someone is banned, they stay banned. I usually end up having to be a firewall exception on those sites though thanks to the AOL proxy, but I've never had a problem. It might stop this nutcase from coming back.

TechElec wrote:

Not again.

baduser wrote:

I hope that someone has made known to the persons responsible of DISCOGS thing it is happening.

Jayfive wrote:

What, you mean like nik? Nik is responsible for discogs and responsible for you being banned. He is the Discogs Community Manager. He runs the place. And youve repeatedly threatened and insulted him. And then you expect him to let you use the site again on what grounds?

And am i right in saying your threatening to wreck the site or buy records from people unless you are reinstated? Well good luck with that, you wouldnt be the first to try.

Mr.Mystery wrote:

How sad and insignificant your life must be.

cameosis wrote:

jesus christ. oh, and by the way -- my submission was removed, but based on what grounds?

http://www.discogs.com/release/1376777

i own the record, albeit the image wasn't taken by me -- i don't have a digicam, so there.

choenyi wrote:

sorry about that.

btw how does donbacky have an average vote received of 7.00 ????

edit: that link does not work, but http://www.discogs.com/user/donbacky seems to work

edit2: so strange ...

sptnk wrote:

@ [user=cameosis]

Some releases were removed by mistake.
Only the ones added by "117lucia, xxxbenito, etc" were to be removed, as they were full of mistakes and, so it seems, not based on physical copies... But the websubmitter-police went a bit in overdrive and did not always check properly who was the original submitter.

Your entry is now in your drafts folder.
Just re-submit and if it's corrrect, it will be probably voted "correct" in no-time...

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

You're first donbecky link is an artist link, not a user link. That's why it doesn't work. You did that on the link to 'Welldone' as well, though with that one there acually appears to be an artist called Welldone. :D




Sorry if I voted yes. I went through all of them and picked out the ones that were viable. Yours must of been kicked out too fast for me to catch it, sorry. Though apparently, even my warnings didn't help on this one.

http://www.discogs.com/release/1267701




Auntie Em, Uncle Henry, Toto! It's A Twister! It's A Twister! :D

choenyi wrote:

thanks Drama_Ft._Justified, I've probably switched the "u" for an "a" many times. I'll be aware of that now, and the little dude missing is an obvious clue. thx

hwanin wrote:

LOL, this guy you quoted choenyi can't even speak English.
I don't know how we could understand him, if he can't speak our common language? :D

hwanin wrote:

GOD will shit on you, and you will definitely rot in hell! :)





Aren't you bored of yourself yet?

zwame wrote:

http://www.discogs.com/release/359501 !!!???

thanks
z

choenyi wrote:

welcome back, zdoncosmaz?

don't want to falsely asssume but the submissions, the material, and Submission Notes "none" feels a little too familiar ...

http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1447839#latest
http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1448017#latest
http://www.discogs.com/history?release=1448047#latest

(lol)

TechElec wrote:

Yeah, that and the fact he's copying to draft form one of his banned accounts.

rassel wrote:

Hmmm, this guy is really desperately trying to submit his bootlegs/white label records.
Even if wen ban him again, he will get back with a further account, maybe we should try to communicate with him.

Is there any Italian speaking voter around? If yes, please ask him, if he has this records in his possession. Explain him, that he should just enter what's on the record.
Any help would be appreciated.

Jayfive wrote:

Im sure we'd like to - but look at this thread, does he look like a guy who wants communicate.

If he wanted to play ball, he wouldnt keep doing the same things over and over

choenyi wrote:

good call TechElec! I forgot to look @ that ...

schtel wrote:

Maybe ask him to stay away for 3 months until he calms down. Then his 'case' can be looked at again. If he's prepared to do that then we'll know he's sincere about contributing. Meet people half way.

Jayfive wrote:

@TechElec and others - make sure you block this guys account to stop him sabotaging your submissions or your sales.

nik wrote:

I have blocked him again.

He repeatedly has abused the database, not only through submitting items he hasn't got himself, but also by badly abusing other releases in the database, and other users. He was given plenty of chances and communication to set things straight, but instead decided to create multiple accounts and keep doing exactly the same things as he was asked not to do. He is, under no circumstances, a trusted user, and will *never* be let back on the site, period.

choenyi wrote:

bojardo?
e.g.: Get Up And Boogie - Disco Melody, ... proof by discopatrick, ... etc.

zipdriver wrote:

Will there ever be an end to this madness?

Jayfive wrote:

Actually, his submissions are actually a lot better.

Should still ban him again though.

nik wrote:

Removal requests entered.

jweijde wrote:

It would be so great if you could just remove these subs with one click instead of having four voters wasting their time on it...

Drama_Ft._Justified wrote:

I knew he was back too....just didn't feel like mentioning it but, ehh, whatever. :D Here's another account of his:

http://www.discogs.com/user/dazebao

virompoilculo wrote:

beware!!!!!!!!!

Jayfive wrote:

Oh god, not this again.

Be afraid everyone, Mr Crazypants here is going to vote 1/5 on stuff in your collection. Wooh!

Take the hint youve been given numerous times - get lost and stay lost you troublemaking gonk.

Jayfive wrote:

Hes resurfaced again as:
cacacazzosempre

http://www.discogs.com/submissions?us...se/1148292

Hes added prono images to the submission too - can someone sort that out - I cant as im at work and its not worth the risk. :P

'sent by cacacazzosempre to Jayfive on 28-Oct-08 04:49 PM

beware,i break you '

*sigh* And hes 'bought' stuff from me too. Its just so fucking tedious. Someone on here once referred to me as 'like flypaper for freaks' - I think I know what he means.

I recommend you block this loon from your sales and from editing your subs as soon as you can.

Jayfive wrote:

What a fucking nut.

Hes started to methodically go through my submitted items and vote 1/5 on them. Like I give a fuck he's voted 1/5 on High On Hope

What effect does he think thats going to have? Itll take folks about 2 minutes to revert any damage hes attempting to do.

Nik, cant you stop this guy coming back?

choenyi wrote:

thanks for looking out, Jayfive. i found some pr0n on one of my own random, old submissions.

edit: haha, and it's voted 1/5.